tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post5861244091693413075..comments2023-12-14T00:26:40.462-07:00Comments on Submissive Sanctuary: Nature Versus NurtureStormhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12613795542678253943noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-35648769287125523692014-03-18T08:01:38.440-06:002014-03-18T08:01:38.440-06:00Inked,
I like your road to self discover bit. So v...Inked,<br />I like your road to self discover bit. So very true.<br /><br />It does shape a lot of things. Sometimes I wonder if we even see how much until we look back....Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12613795542678253943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-66253934030873746922014-03-17T16:45:22.384-06:002014-03-17T16:45:22.384-06:00Had to rewrite my comment... The road to self disc...Had to rewrite my comment... The road to self discovery is paved differently for each one.... I went from fighter (15 years in a traditional martial art) to slave-to-be with the same deep craving for devotion and submission to a master. Somehow this profound need shapes events and encounters.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18251740424867611694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-12498145422531052242014-03-17T12:10:25.794-06:002014-03-17T12:10:25.794-06:00gg,
I like your long way!
I think that Jz really g...gg,<br />I like your long way!<br />I think that Jz really got the right wording went she went with "wiring". This post turned tricky for me, and I was never really able to pull my meaning completely out of the fog.Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12613795542678253943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-33074556083833769612014-03-17T11:38:18.046-06:002014-03-17T11:38:18.046-06:00I'm pretty sure we are a long way from definit...I'm pretty sure we are a long way from definitive answers for any of the nature/nurture arguments - scientifically anyhow... Humans, circumstances, life are just too complex. <br /><br />For me - i feel like it is similar to being an introvert: i've always functioned better with plenty of alone and quiet time, never craved crowds or noise or lots of external stimulation - i function - across a lot of situations - well even (mostly) - but i know what i need to really thrive and excel and be my best. I didn't know it had a name until later in life - didn't know it's features or definitions, or any of that - but i had figured out how to structure my life to try to meet those needs and i also knew what i had to do to function outside of that when needed. <br /><br />Submission for me is a lot like that - i always felt better, did better, thrived, was attracted to certain things and ways - now i know the name. That doesn't mean i don't struggle, i'm sure as hell far from perfect, and i can act out of accordance with it as needed - but a lot of things work better when i do act in accordance with this part of my personality. <br /><br />Anyway - a long way of saying i like what you've written - and i agree - there is no point to worrying about whether anyone is "a natural submissive" or not....greengirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06897315716330033528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-23138966741796458112014-03-17T10:42:58.152-06:002014-03-17T10:42:58.152-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18251740424867611694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-74251480348132582272014-03-17T08:21:59.755-06:002014-03-17T08:21:59.755-06:00sunnygirl,
hmmm, I get where you're coming fro...sunnygirl,<br />hmmm, I get where you're coming from with that. Now I think I need more coffee.Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12613795542678253943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-499584697085226602014-03-17T08:21:15.966-06:002014-03-17T08:21:15.966-06:00DelFonte,
Oh how I agree that descriptors make it ...DelFonte,<br />Oh how I agree that descriptors make it challenging and open to misunderstanding!<br /><br />Now I'm curious about your post...Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12613795542678253943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-48840480055957671532014-03-17T08:20:08.783-06:002014-03-17T08:20:08.783-06:00Nods at Misty*
You can never have too much coffee...Nods at Misty* <br />You can never have too much coffee.Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12613795542678253943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-69256231775907591132014-03-17T08:19:36.358-06:002014-03-17T08:19:36.358-06:00petalsMaster,
we do tend not to stray too far from...petalsMaster,<br />we do tend not to stray too far from the animal world, for all of our fancy human trappings...Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12613795542678253943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-11188122761013330182014-03-16T20:39:00.590-06:002014-03-16T20:39:00.590-06:00Wow, some heavy thoughts there.
I think there is...Wow, some heavy thoughts there.<br /><br /> I think there is a form of D/s in every area of life and we are always one or the other or one and the other at different times and in different circumstances. Aimless Ramblinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00720714875762344391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-88026458970178232342014-03-16T16:47:36.198-06:002014-03-16T16:47:36.198-06:00Now I have a post buried away about eye colour, D/...Now I have a post buried away about eye colour, D/s, nature/nurture. Never felt comfortable about publishing it... Perhaps I should. Descriptors make the debate challenging, open to misunderstanding, eye colour is much more straightforward. We all have innate traits, some expressed, others not... The reason why will keep scientists/philosophers happy for years.<br />Thought provoking post!DelFontehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02877826634987802545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-62253889955263885102014-03-16T15:31:25.460-06:002014-03-16T15:31:25.460-06:00I think...I need coffee I think...I need coffee Mistyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07931554793023459482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-7569348779753479552014-03-16T15:15:57.015-06:002014-03-16T15:15:57.015-06:00I'm sorry...
;-)I'm sorry...<br />;-)Jzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301793291285112859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-49497916536167487402014-03-16T14:46:30.132-06:002014-03-16T14:46:30.132-06:00Jz,
Hmmm, I find myself agreeing with your quibbli...Jz,<br />Hmmm, I find myself agreeing with your quibbling about descriptors and different kinds of wiring. <br />I have to say, having just written this post and really struggled with something I couldn't pinpoint, I'm not entirely pleased to find myself agreeing so much.<br /><br />Maybe I can reconcile it all clearly in my mind with the approach that wiring is what defines whether one's experience of submission is innate or discovered.<br /><br />Hmmm...<br /><br />Now I have to go think more...Dammit! Lol. :)Stormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12613795542678253943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-35945757073278634092014-03-16T14:31:45.693-06:002014-03-16T14:31:45.693-06:00Nature versus nurture is an interesting area. I be...Nature versus nurture is an interesting area. I believe that much of that which drives us is written within us and is difficult to deflect, sometimes impossible. As set as the colour of your eyes.<br /><br />I once saw a study of the breeding behavious of robins, they are very territorial and the female selects based on the quality and size of the terrirtory the male controls. Only its not as simple as that. Most pair up and raise young, they are loyal and monogamous. Some males though will instead of establishing territory, chance a liason with a paired female, she might be faithful and reject him, or will mate surreptitiously so that her partner will still provide for her and chicks that aren't his. Yet other males will try to force themselves on paired females. Sounds familiar really, and the behaviours are inherited. We elevate ourselves far above other animals but we inherit traits just as they do.<br /><br />pMpetalsMasterhttp://www.petalsmj.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6393795333438979432.post-65391538490774282222014-03-16T13:35:12.683-06:002014-03-16T13:35:12.683-06:00I like the distinctions of type, tho' I might ...I like the distinctions of type, tho' I might quibble the use of descriptors. To me, it's more an issue of kinds of wiring, rather than of the submission being innate or discovered…<br /><br />But I absolutely agree about the differences that those types of wiring make. <br /><br />I am not <i>willingly</i> walking away from D/s - I still want it and miss it. But regardless, I am now without it and, you're right, my life continues to chug along apace. <br />It's much the same as I feel about sex - things are a lot better <i>with</i> it, sure, but I'm not going to go out and start coupling with men at random just to say I got me some…Jzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301793291285112859noreply@blogger.com